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NewsCatholic Church, Faith, Politics – U.S.Thu Mar 29, 2018 – 12:09 pm EST
Hell ‘does not’ exist…sinful souls ‘disappear,’ Pope Francis allegedly tells favorite interviewer

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VATICAN, March 29, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – In another media nightmare for the Vatican, Pope Francis has again met with Eugenio Scalfari, a 93-year-old atheist philosopher known for quoting the Pope without recording the conversation, leading to a new controversial ‘interview’ the Vatican insists is not “faithful” to the Holy Father’s words.

In the Pope’s fifth meeting with Scalfari, who is known not to take notes, the Pope purportedly said that “hell does not exist,” that unrepentant souls in mortal sin “disappear” after death, and that he is “honored” to be called a revolutionary.

The ‘interview’ appeared today in the left-leaning Italian daily Scalfari co-founded, La Repubblica, and which Pope Francis has said is the only newspaper he reads.

Scalfari described the meeting in this way:

“A non-believer and the Pope, Bishop of Rome on the chair of Peter and inspired especially by the letters of St. Paul, who transformed Christianity into a religion destined to be the most followed, together with the Muslim one, with which Francis has sought and still seeks brotherhood in the name of One God from whom all religions must be inspired.”

Scalfari reported their alleged exchange about hell as follows:

Scalfari: Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will at some point disappear and God will always create other species from his creative seed. You have never spoken to me of souls who have died in sin and go to hell to suffer for it forever. Instead, you have spoken to me of good souls who are admitted to the contemplation of God. But the bad souls? Where are they punished?

Pope Francis: “They are not punished, those who repent obtain God’s forgiveness and join the ranks of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. Hell does not exist; the disappearance of sinful souls exists.”

At the end of the interview, Scalfari also expressly denied the divinity of Christ, describing Jesus of Nazareth as “a man and no more than a man.”

With controversial headlines swirling across the globe, this afternoon Vatican press spokesman Greg Burke issued a statement confirming the Pope had “recently received the founder of the daily La Repubblica in a private meeting for Easter,” but said he hadn’t granted him “an interview.”

Burke added that “what the author reported in today’s article is the result of his own reconstruction, in which the exact words spoken by the Pope are not cited.”

“No quotation marks of the aforementioned article should therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father,” he said.

Edward Pentin of the National Catholic Register said the Pope’s comments on this occasion “are questionable as they are at odds with previous statements in which he has spoken of Hell’s existence, most recently last week when he appealed to the mafia to give up their lives of crime and avoid eternal damnation.”

But he added that “Francis has also given signals to the contrary, preaching last year that ‘everything will be saved — everything’ and that at the end of history there will be an ‘immense tent, where God will welcome all mankind so as to dwell with them definitively.’”

After a similar encounter between Pope Francis and Scalfari in 2016, Riccardo Cascioli, director of the Italian Catholic daily La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana, welcomed the fact that the Pope is establishing relationships with people such as Scalfari “who are far away.”

But Cascioli also warned that comments coming from such interviews become “a cause of scandal in the literal sense of the term” because they “disorientate and confuse many Catholics, also because these sentences are then used and abused” by those whose purpose is “the destruction of the Church.”

Here below is an English translation of key exchanges from the ‘interview’:

Scalfari: Does [Jesus’ Passion and Death] come from Adam and Eve’s expulsion from their earthly Paradise, from their exile to the earth where we have lived since then? Therefore creation is not the one beautifully painted by Michelangelo on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, but it occurs when God sees that Adam and Eve have succumbed to the flattery of a serpent devil, and have broken the only prohibition that was placed upon them. The true creation, then, is in their expulsion from the earthly Paradise, is that the creation?

Pope Francis: “Creation is not accomplished in the way [you have] described. The Creator, that is God in the highest heavens, created the whole universe and especially the energy that is the instrument with which our Lord has created the earth, the mountains, the sea, the stars, the galaxies and living beings and even the particles and atoms and various species that the divine nature has established. Each species lasts thousands and perhaps billions of years, but then disappears. The energy caused the explosion of a universe that changes from time to time. New species replace those that have disappeared and it is God the Creator who regulates this alternation.

Scalfari: Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will at some point disappear and God will always create other species from his creative seed. You have never spoken to me of souls who have died in sin and go to hell to suffer for it forever. Instead, you have spoken to me of good souls who are admitted to the contemplation of God. But the bad souls? Where are they punished?

Pope Francis: “They are not punished, those who repent obtain God’s forgiveness and join the ranks of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. Hell does not exist; the disappearance of sinful souls exists.”
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As detained bishop is released, Vatican says ‘no deal’ yet with China

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CHINA, March 29, 2018, (LifeSiteNews) – A Chinese bishop, detained by government authorities Monday night for refusing to cooperate with the communist regime’s directives regarding Holy Week liturgies, has been released.

Mindong’s Bishop Vincent Guo Xijin, held in police custody overnight, was returned to his home the following day, according to an AsiaNews report.

Representatives of the underground Church in China say Bishop Guo had been taken away for refusing to concelebrate the Easter liturgies with “Bishop” Zhan Silu, an illegitimate and excommunicated bishop approved by the Chinese authorities.

Earlier this year Bishop Guo was asked by the Vatican to cede his office to Zhan. According to the proposed agreement, Guo was to assume the title of auxiliary bishop of the diocese. At this writing, Zhan remains excommunicated.

Bishop Guo “was taken away because the unofficial community of Mindong – the majority of the faithful and priests of the diocese – had organized an early Chrism Mass,” continues the AsiaNews report. “The police seized Msgr. Guo to stop him from presiding over the celebration. Allowing him to return home yesterday, they banned him from celebrating any Mass as a bishop, as he is not recognized by the government.”

As Holy Week approached, rumors swirled throughout the Church that a deal between communist China and the Vatican is “imminent.”

In order to squelch the rumors and satisfy curious journalists, the Holy See’s Press office issued a statement on Holy Thursday denying media reports “that the Vatican is on the verge of signing an agreement regarding the status of the Catholic Church in China,” according to Vatican News.

Vatican Press Director Greg Burke indicated that there is no “imminent” signing of an agreement between the Holy See and the People’s Republic of China.

He added that the Holy Father remains in “constant contact” with his advisors on the Church in China as dialogue continues.

China’s leading prelate, Cardinal Joseph Zen, sounded the alarm earlier this year, warning that the Vatican “is selling out the Catholic Church in China​” and that it is “giving the blessing on the new…schismatic Church” created by the Communists.

“So, do I think that the Vatican is selling out the Catholic Church in China? Yes, definitely, if they go in the direction which is obvious from all what they are doing in recent years and months,” the 86-year-old retired Bishop of Hong Kong wrote in a January 29 letter addressed to “Friends in the Media.” In this letter, he confirmed a report that the Vatican had asked legitimate Chinese bishops to step down in favor of communist-picked “bishops.”

Cardinal Zen outlined how the Vatican’s capitulation to China’s communist regime is only making the regime clamp down harder on faithful Catholics.​

“The Communist Government is making new harsher regulations limiting religious freedom. They are now strictly enforcing regulations which up to now were practically only on paper,” he wrote.

Cardinal Zen’s warnings are proving to be accurate as, “bishops and underground communities are being targeted and pushed to join the Patriotic Association,” according to the AsiaNews report.

“At the beginning of March, Msgr. Julius Jia Zhiguo, underground bishop of Zhengding (Hebei), was taken away by the police to avoid, by pain of threat,” says the report, “him commenting on the dialogue between China and the Vatican with foreign journalists in Beijing who were covering the National People’s Congress.”
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